Final Ownage Elite

Hola

15:02

added Officers and Councils in here aswell

15:02

Archived #71 and #officials

15:02

Pretty much to discuss going forward, where we are and what the plan is

15:04

So pretty much an update of the people stepping down according to Funky; Adhi Stepping down to legend Parviz Stepping down to elder* Erik stepping down to elder* Nacho removed for leaking Possibly Brad ?

15:06

To move forward you basically have to add a few people to the rank team, the most interesting options are; Danny taking leader, he would want solo leader from what i understood. So funker has to step aside. Divine stepping it up in some capacity, basically funker gone from the leader rank aswell. Funky leading the current rank team and maybe one person right next to him to replace Adhi. Colin taking high council. Any other ideas? (edited)

15:07

Certain people nailed it by saying that if people put their ego aside and do whats best for the clan this clan could actually be succesful again, i suggest to take this in consideration aswell.

15:09

One last thing is that everybody seems to be on the same page that we should switch to wilderness based, start with small events and eventually consider sunday trips aswell

Need more information from danny/divine. Need to know if it's only me they would want to step down, or if there is anyone else on the list. Need a somewhat actionable plan from them so that we can comfortably compare both options. If having them step up is what is best for the clan, and i am the only person standing in the way, then I would gladly step to the side

Is anyone even succesfully talking to any of them?

15:14

@Divine

i am in contact with divine

15:15

Adhi is in contact with danny

This is basically the highest priority rn and needs to be sorted before the weekend is over IMO

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SO

15:19

danny has changed his mind

15:20

since the last talk and wants leader

Yes

Would it be wise to add Danny to this chat?

Yeah

15:26

don't see an issue

go for it funker

done

welcome @danny

As long as we are open and the clan isn’t on life support idc what happens

well decision making will decide if the clan will be on life support or not, so with the 'idc what happens' you can pretty much assume it will be on life support

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Will reply after football

Well cause it is on life support right now lol. Don’t even know who is in and who is out still

I just told you what the stance of the current rank team

15:51

that's the most important part, from there on we work towards the bottom

Yeah some of them

this should be everybody

Still need to hear from others (edited)

pretty much everybody confirmed what their plan is moving forward

Ok then what’s lay doing

15:54

Blood

It’s pretty much funky running it or Danny that’s it there’s no other way to it

Blood and Lay will remain ranked

Polo?

If they are not on that list this remain ranked

Ok

GFX

It’s pretty much funky running it or Danny that’s it there’s no other way to it

Yes and no, ideal scenario would be if everybody put their ego aside and we all work together no matter what the team will be

It’s pretty much Danny leader and who Danny wants

15:55

Unless it’s changed

GFX

It’s pretty much Danny leader and who Danny wants

we need to hear more of his plan and what exactly he would be wanting to do

Exactly

so that we can make the best decision for the future of the clan

I’m wondering the same

i'm pretty sure it's still early af in australia so gotta give him time

yup

It's personally weird to see people being against Funky, i completely agree he is a better high council than leader and he is well aware of that aswell. He got promoted to leader and put in a shitty position, it happens. We just gotta work with the people we have and do whats best.

15:57

It's just like Parviz as Warlord, guy is a great rank... perfect High council if you ask me but if you put a foreigner as warlord it's doomed aswell.

Think it’s only because his decision to go forward with the clan when majority wanted it closed and obviously with how the clan is etc but no point going over it now we discuss what happens moving forward

16:00

I was a bit sceptical because nothing much has been said or spoken to ranks about moving forward lack of communication

16:00

Let’s just see Dannys vision moving forward

a slight majority wanted to keep it open and some changed their mind from closing to keeping open

Boris

Yes and no, ideal scenario would be if everybody put their ego aside and we all work together no matter what the team will be

^

16:38

Would like to see some input from Danny before commenting on anything

Kruck

Polo?

Boris

It's personally weird to see people being against Funky, i completely agree he is a better high council than leader and he is well aware of that aswell. He got promoted to leader and put in a shitty position, it happens. We just gotta work with the people we have and do whats best.

The reason Danny and remy came back in the first place was because he couldn’t do his job if you could recall

18:09

It’s been nearly 2 years now? I hold no personal grudge against him I’m just pointing out his inadequacy as leader

18:11

Nothing will change as he has not changed so I’d rather not waste my time helping fo with him at the helm of it

he did have people next to him though, i don't really see him being harmful and maybe it's a good reality check to work together

The reality check was a year ago when I insisted that we axed him

18:14

Nothing has changed

is that just on him or also on the people that were ranked next to him

18:16

so lets say he gets demoted to either high council or legend, where will that get us ?

I’ll give my 2 cents. Funky kinda got pushed into leader from HC at a time where foe was at a real low point because K2p was busy irl at the time and couldn’t do as much as he wanted & funky was holding it down as HC. I personally don’t like seeing people try shit on him as he’s a good bloke who does care a lot for foe. I would’ve liked to have seen older legends step up and try help guide him more to improve as a leader rather than just ask for him to be axed

18:53

I’d love to find a compromise where we all work together to make foe better because at the end of the day we’re all here for that one reason

Big text from deadweight council (nothing personal)

18:56

18:58

I don’t deny that funky doesn’t care about foe he is simply unfit for the position and he wasn’t thrown into it in a state of disarray I can find a gal in of 70 spamming funky era when I tried to hype him up

We know your stance on me Divine, no reason to continue pushing that. Like i've already said, i've got no issue stepping away if there is somebody to replace and a plan forward

18:58

and the other ranks are on board w/ it

Divine

I don’t deny that funky doesn’t care about foe he is simply unfit for the position and he wasn’t thrown into it in a state of disarray I can find a gal in of 70 spamming funky era when I tried to hype him up

yes the 70 man pull was 3 months after he was thrown into the position, where were you in all of 2022 when we were pulling 15 most of the year? You were HC for some of that time and i didn’t see you do a thing then either ngl

18:59

You have definitely done a lot in the past I won’t deny that either

Lay

yes the 70 man pull was 3 months after he was thrown into the position, where were you in all of 2022 when we were pulling 15 most of the year? You were HC for some of that time and i didn’t see you do a thing then either ngl

Don’t cry about me

18:59

I’ve done my part I’m here to offer advice

we ain't here to argue

advice is welcomed, I’m not here to argue with you, all I’ve ever seen you do in the last 2 years is flame lol

Lay

yes the 70 man pull was 3 months after he was thrown into the position, where were you in all of 2022 when we were pulling 15 most of the year? You were HC for some of that time and i didn’t see you do a thing then either ngl

Ur actually delusional

lol

Because ur dogshit

stop

u weren’t around lmfao

19:00

fag

stop

The clan went from 15 to 50+ when I helped K2p

19:00

Ur a deadweight council too

and then you went mia

Ur going to get auto elder

19:00

And rot there

19:00

Cunt

idrc about rank ngl, all i want is to help foe

Ok then don’t be d0gshit?

tell me what you want as an improvement then

19:01

and I’ll make the adjustments

you've only bashed funky so far

19:02

no solid plan given afterwards

19:02

he said he is willing to step aside if given a good plan

I’m on ts most days and stay active on discord to keep community active

Boris

he said he is willing to step aside if given a good plan

I’m also willing to do this if said legends don’t want me in council

19:02

as long as it benefits foe idc

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Boris

no solid plan given afterwards

Im discussing our options privately right now I’ll let you know

19:03

The clan can continue under funky

19:03

But

19:03

As fo

19:03

Not foe

Once again, more bashing and no planning

U had two years to plan?

Lay

tell me what you want as an improvement then

happy to hear advice divine

19:04

bit over 12 months actually

Lay

happy to hear advice divine

Ye advice is to recruit your time zone

he got leader in december 2022

I'm clearly talking about a plan w/ me stepping away

ok np can do that

19:04

anything else ?

No

cool

Do you think that you’ve been doing enough?

19:05

Just curious

At times yes, other times no - depending on how busy I’ve been irl Theres definitely been plenty of times I’ve run small latenight events, gotten GMT minis at 5am before work & I feel like I’m one of the more active people on discord and ts overall (last 2 weeks ive been overseas so not counting those) (edited)

I know it’s difficult during your time zone

I can’t say I’m the best at recruiting but I’ve brought a few people here even if only a handful have ended up as decent members

19:08

Any days where i start work at 8am I can be on for a bit before work to help with events ie minis/pkris but otherwise 1am EST - 5am EST are the best times for me

Does your time zone overlap with GMT or do they not get on till a bit later

midweek GMT guys don’t usually want to play at 6-8am when the aussies are online

19:10

but I’m happy to play during early GMT afternoons if we have events & I can even set up small stuff for those days where i start work at 8am

I dont think you need to set up events

Okay, so you’d just want me to be there at those events assuming work permits?

Playing the game with the boys in the cc and on ts is enough, establishing our community again

I can continue doing that, usually me jason troy and colin play latenight USA times together in afternoons but we have been slack on recruiting during that timezone

That means getting people on ts not just by spamming @everyone to get on, pming people personally to come

19:12

Danny worked hard to pm people individually and build report

19:12

Rather than generic mass spam loc is ts

absolutely agree

rapport*

K2P

rapport*

Ty

When I do stuff during my hours I pm the guys i know that can sometimes play late

19:13

ie zach, nico, colin, jesse, and the aussies

Your goal should be to add 1 new person to that crew a week that’s very doable

19:14

Between those guys

19:14

1 person only not 1 each

done, we’ll work on recruiting some aussies/latenight west coast americans

I wouldn’t worry about events your event is to chill and have fun

ye, I can do that

19:15

I enjoy chilling on ts with the boys regardless

19:15

just need to step up my recruiting if I’m honest

we should have a proper leadership sorted this weekend

Divine

The reality check was a year ago when I insisted that we axed him

What'd be your stance on him moving back to HC? Can't comment because I was afk at the time, but apparently he made a good HC

Funky has said he doesnt want to get HC again, rather elder*

I’m cool with that, idgaf what my rank is, if people want me moved to elder I’ll take it and still do as much as i can during my timezone Whatever is collectively decided is the best option I’m more than happy to move forward with

OK fair enough

Borzor has already said what the possible plans are, what the fuck are you boys yapping about? Work together

Lay

I’m cool with that, idgaf what my rank is, if people want me moved to elder I’ll take it and still do as much as i can during my timezone Whatever is collectively decided is the best option I’m more than happy to move forward with

that was in reply to boris

19:19

btw

Erik

Borzor has already said what the possible plans are, what the fuck are you boys yapping about? Work together

happy with that

I swear some of you behave like children and we're all pushing 30 kekw

Erik

Funky has said he doesnt want to get HC again, rather elder*

correct, would still help out in whatever capacity is needed as an elder rank

Erik

I swear some of you behave like children and we're all pushing 30 kekw

it seems like we are past the argument now tho

19:22

im hoping lol

Don’t u guys have any shame

gm daniel

Ready to go back to wildy based. Will support any decision

Gm dan

There’s 16 ppl in here excluding Kris. How did you let it get to this stage? Out of curiosity don’t you plan ahead?

19:29

Did no1 see this coming

19:30

Gm

ngl while we were doing the clanwars stuff it seemed like we were doing well

19:30

and suddenly it fell apart

ask the current ranks

like we went from being absolute dogshit in the portal to being pretty decent in the course of those 4-5 months

Ok, so why did it fall apart ?

19:33

Has anyone even thought about that Q

19:33

Does any1 even know what to do next?

I’m not 100% sure - there seemed to be some discord between some ranks about how the clanwars stuff was going & it ended up with single leaving (who was the main guy running est CWA)

Pretty much the leadership has been underwelming for years, the clan been in decline since 2021

Yes, we saw it coming to an extent

19:34

We lost a lot of our members to main clanning dramas & a lot to eop

19:34

We made a mistake by focusing cwa

it wasnt even ok before that

And ended up losing the cwa prods because they got burnt out from playing with sub-par players

there was a lot of tension below the surface between some ranks i could feel

Boris

it wasnt even ok before that

I'm talking most recently

How come nobody set any goals and tried to work towards them?

19:36

Other than adhi with clw

19:37

And what’s gonna be different now?

19:37

Do ppl here rely on others or what

funky,kruck & polo wanted to go through with staying open

Yes

and wanted

Which is fine

to proceed

But what’s your GOALS

so i need funky to tell us

Do those 3 ppl even know

what he wants

19:37

and tell us

Yeah

but

19:38

we got told you changed your mind

19:38

so

And how come these same ppl didn’t act before it got to this stage?

can you tell us what your thinking

I am

19:38

These questions I’m asking

you really need to ask the current leadership

I am brah

and they need to speak up

Their plan is to focus on wildy, try and get community back active and focus smaller pkris and eventually sundays

19:39

and kinda hoping that old ranks step in

Yes that’s too broad though

19:39

Need more specifics

19:39

How they gonna recruit ppl back?

Meh most of my plans got fucked

How?

Thought the rot vs vr wouldn’t happen til April

And don’t say vr

19:39

Lol..

danny

But what’s your GOALS

This is what we've been asking

So ur telling me vr just killed foe ?

No

Isn’t that a shitty excuse

We had a good chance to snowball off our pull

I'm not even interested in what our goals are

part of it though if we are being realistic

I'm interested in what we're going to do about it

Just didn’t do it

the ranks relied on VR, rot forced foe to remove VR which is -12 members

19:40

eop reopening at the same time is another -7

19:41

and after that bad mental of the ranks

True but yeah should have snowball off the pull

19:41

The week we had 55 was a good time to recruit off of that

not gonna lie

Most clan weren’t pull more than that expect zenith

this garbage application system does not work either

19:42

can't be petty with applicants when every pure clan is just mass accepting

Cwa vision was good, it was good to have a goal and agenda

19:44

But st the same time it was bad

19:45

We were pushing people into cwa who weren't built for it

19:45

And they got tired of losing

19:45

We needed to recognise this and switch agenda sooner

19:45

There was too much pressure put onto certain people

Seems like either options will be pushing for wildy so that won’t be a problem now

ok, and what happens when theres 15 ppl on sunday

19:46

while z and eop have 100+

should i answer or leave it to the fellas that are ranked

should be the ranks.

lately while z and eop have been pulling 100+, they pretty quickly have been getting into their own long return fight and then ending after. Other clans have been getting their own fights/clusters in another world/loc

19:52

So depending on your pull and other clans pulls you get our own fights or snipe clusters. Or you find something else to do if you are well less than every1 else

meh was going to say not go out 15 man pull would do more harm than good

tbh if we can have 40ish for sundays we can have good fights with other clans but the end goal would be to get involved with eop and z

19:56

beat them rather

yea but the question was if we have 15

19:58

then it comes down to do you suicide your guys into other clans and waste their time or cancel even if it will look bad

19:59

sure you can try to make it "fun" and go rag a fight but that will quickly lose interest

danny

There’s 16 ppl in here excluding Kris. How did you let it get to this stage? Out of curiosity don’t you plan ahead?

Not reading 90 messages but nah no shame in my body at all. Foe has been shit for 2 years now 2 things happened in a short time frame that we can’t account for: -Rot’s threats = we ban multiclanning -EoP re-opening (edited)

So whats the plan, pretty much only Funky provided a plan.. can't we just make a rank team with everybody instead of coming with demands and such

20:51

put ego aside and there is a chance to bring foe back to the top

Nobody seems to be giving a straight answer, I'm drunker than nik0 rn so cba typing it out but I'll give you a detailed report in the morning @danny

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i don't really see the need for a report

21:05

you either in it for foe or you are not

I'm more referring to the questions he's asking

21:07

But I agree, I don't really see why anyone who is truly invested in seeing foe succeed would have the attitude of "I'll only do this if..."

21:07

Also fuck u @Boris

21:07

Hill giant

Come up with suggestions and stop avoiding. Every day this is being postponed makes it a lot worse. We are losing valuable time, @danny @Divine @Kruck @Teleporting @Funky try to come to some sort on agreement how the rank team will look like asap

21:30

Gn

gn bro

Do you guys want to be dominant for just stay open

22:16

What’s the goal

Well clearly being dominant would be the better goal

Divine

What’s the goal

I have no interest in staying open for the sake of staying open, I've made that clear

22:19

It's either go hard or press the X

22:19

In my opinion, anyway

I want to continue with foe, and build up our community again and have ranks pm every single member to either join ts or be more active, just like @danny did.

22:23

3 years ago when a “rank” pmed u, u would reply because they had respect

22:24

The last years nobody gave a fuck about the ranks

22:24

When adhi took leader 15 people came back (who didn’t attend shit btw)

22:24

If Danny would take leader again I think he can get more to rejoin foe

22:25

And my goals for foe in 2024 is

22:25

To be back in the top 1 or 2

22:25

And close fucking eop again

22:26

I have no hate against anyone in here

22:26

Danny kinda fucked us over with the main shit, but never the less I still think he is a great leader

well it's no secret that he's a better leader than i am, but we need to hear from him what he is wanting to do (edited)

22:28

@danny are you still interested in taking leader?

I will re read this whole conversation when I’m sober

22:28

And @Funky I don’t have any hate or whatever against u, we were rebuilding and that unfortunately rot and eop drama came

id like to close on top after 20 years personally

If danny is taking leader, let him make a rank team with the people he want.

the goal is to work together and sure there can be suggestions or something but to this point i still haven't heard any proper plan to form a rank team

we should prob get an idea going by like tomorrow or the next day at the latest

@danny u at work or something

5:18 AM

@danny u there man

Yeah but people should know a game plan before that happens

So at this point the only plan provided is to build a team around the people that wanted foe to stay open

Correct

I feel the lack of engagement and actual positive discussions happening here are concerning, especially given that as far as I'm aware, we all want the same thing (for foe to succeed). Is there anything holding you guys back from saying too much right now? @Divine @danny It's also a bit concerning looking at the attitude of some of the current ranks. A lot of deflecting, beating around the bush, and excuses. Danny has asked some pretty fair questions and nobody has bothered to give any sort of real answer to what he's asked, has anyone considered that this could be why he's not engaged in the conversation in the past 12 hours? You're all being pussies rn I can't lie.. why is an elder* having to lead the conversation and give direction to everybody?

New Rank team needs to be sorted ASAP. Would rely heavy on the people who voted for staying open. Yet I’ll be honest Funky is the only one closest to providing some kind of plan, and Borzor is leading the conversation. The rest are just talking about irrelevant bullshit

@mpc @Teleporting @Kruck have you guys got nothing to say?

7:10 AM

Ik ur stepping down parviz but still..

I’m happy to go along with whatever plan we go through with

7:11 AM

Funkys plan works with me but if theres an alternative we choose as a rank team

7:11 AM

I am also happy

7:11 AM

whatever you guys want me to do

So sum it up

I’m happy with

Wildy based

I would love to try maintain a small mini unit

7:12 AM

even while wildy based

7:12 AM

for guys like paul

So sum it up

7:12 AM

Wildy based

7:12 AM

With small cwa unit

yeah push recruitment

More ranks need to pm members

7:13 AM

Not just mass hl

7:13 AM

And start with recruiting

yeah pming and building a connection personally with individuals goes a long way

Have not said much since we change our plan every few hours like i told Kruck. Does Danny want to come back? What is his goal, does he want foe just to stay open as a community and do events whenever he feels like it? And the rest of u if staying as a rank, are you ready to rebuild and go recruit a whole new memberlist?

It’s all talk though Polo, just as it was last rank meeting. You boys need guidance, a well decided upon plan by HC+. I haven’t seen a decision made yet, and Divine and Danny are just not providing if they’re in or out, imo

I like you lay but I cannot stand this attitude. Were asking you what you think is best and what steps you think we should be taking. I don't wanna hear shit like this because it isn't constructive. I know ur just happy to be here and will help in any way you can, but give a strong opinion and don't worry about pissing anyone off

I can’t do this shit alone

7:16 AM

Im inexperienced

Judging by this whole conversation so far, there’s no will and general dedication to actually do what’s needed. It’s possible to bring it back, but not without even understanding why we’re here or what’s needed to be doing, collectively

From what I can see

7:17 AM

We all need to recruit hard and give 110%

The whole point of this chat is to figure out what is going to happen as a TEAM. Nobody is asking to do anything alone. The idea is to come up with a plan. Saying focus wildy and recruit is not a plan.

It’s a point to work to

So my honest opinion? I think we need more than just 5-6 ranks sticking around. I’d love guidance from more experienced ranks/elders/legends to step in and help us less experienced ranks improve as ranks. I think we need to drop recruitment standards and mass recruit a bit, this clan needs new blood. I think we should figure out what times work for what ranks and not overdo it on a personal basis to the point where people are sacrificing on irl shit. So have a plan on what days/times ranks can cover and work around that. If a rank can only do 2 days and set times, great. They can cover that and other ranks can pick up the slack. That being said the finer points of the plan have to come from higher ranks than me

7:20 AM

Also promote brian to officer this week, he can help

OK so tell me where are you gonna focus your efforts to recruit? How are you going to do it? We're gonna focus wildy, great, but what's the plan if we pull 15 and every other clan pulls 40? What are we going to do to ensure our members have fun?

personally i can do some during aus times but it has to be when other aussies or latenighters are on, i can’t recruit anyone to an empty ts if I’m the only person there

7:21 AM

me and troy play 2x a week together and we can recruit if theres 2 of us but he’s busy tuesdays and thursdays so it comes down to mondays/wed/fri

7:22 AM

but we need to boost gmt and est units more than anything

7:22 AM

bc aussies wont be of any use for any events outside of friday/saturday unless they dont work

7:23 AM

ngl though

7:24 AM

it would be great to have guys like danny back to help, they are very experienced ranks who know what to do

I can help with pkris during the week now that they put me in charge of the department at work, I can play with the aussies when I get home to keep ts active, and be on discord all day to make us active

7:53 AM

I’m cool with danny taking leader if we are willing to all work together again. It’s obvious everyone wants FOE to do well. My only gripe is don’t let toxicity get out of control again. Keep things internal and not in lounge etc

Ive told funky what to expect from me the upcoming 2-3 months, ive only heard yday evening about danny wanting to come back and take leader. Its going to be a slow rebuild if we stay with the current rank team. Personally i can do a couple unofficial pk trips every week to keep people active, and recruit while doing so. We should be realistic and dont expect to be at the top anytime soon. Although if danny comes back it might bring a bunch of old people back again, that will make things easier. Im willing work anyone, as a elder or current rank idm.

Well if it’s fun then we can always setup a pkri vs lower pulling clans and if not we can always find team in the south caves. Plenty of pk/venny team go there.

9:39 AM

Already found an open cc that does Callisto pretty regularly

He asked how we going to recruit those people that we lost back does anyone have anything to say about it?

9:57 AM

A callisto pk trip aint gonna save foe

Come with suggestions

well only thing that can bring people back is a rivalry

12:16 PM

if that what you mean

12:16 PM

problem is eop zenith are the only clans worth hyping up

All you fuckers in here only complain

12:22 PM

But don’t come with solutions either

12:22 PM

Like I said I can’t do this shit alone and I’m inexperienced

In all honestly i think our best move would be to soft close for a couple months, people can go their way for now. let the hype from eop and z die. After a couple months ''reopen'' with alot of hype and with the best possible rank team. We dominate for the remaining months until our next anniversary. and close on top.

?

6:14 PM

6:14 PM

who made this?

Why @danny

because ur missing so many important ppl?

6:21 PM

thats garbage

6:21 PM

lmfao

6:21 PM

honestly embarrassing

Who's missing

ok lets see

He’s thinking Remy and Ted

are they not on there?

Don’t think so

should of added them

6:30 PM

tbh

Then yet again danny is talking about irrelevant shit and not what he’s here for soooo

bobby tabzu proccy ac3 jordai jonah king joffrey drives ceza b3eply gerald matt/ogmadchild nando isaak nice net remy jordai mike marko aaq pizy dean blackmirror whiskey drives ted zombie bath orgasms dean tribby cuz real me bluewatch untargetable utc cole repa roy johnautix

Where are they ?

6:35 PM

They either left

6:35 PM

Or chose an other clan instead being in foe

maybe think about why

6:35 PM

they left

6:35 PM

u put ppl that havent been in the clan for years?

6:35 PM

austin is legend?

6:35 PM

l0l

6:35 PM

he never had it

Reckon they did it based on who has vet on forums half those dude weren’t ranks

it would have looked better if u did a list of ppl who were a part of the clan from 2023/2024

6:37 PM

https://gyazo.com/5cc03b566773256d8fd8be489361de08

Gyazo

6:39 PM

? im asking a question

Its Current leadership, notable Legends and Notable elders The rest are current memberlist

if u cant see why thats just embarrassing

6:44 PM

then just go next

I can agree on a couple of people. Nice Net (eop tho) Remy Ted Utc (eop tho) Jordai (eop tho)

6:45 PM

Why on earth would we have people like tabzu, mike, dean, whiskey, tribby and cuz on this list

because they cared? until ppl drove them away

6:45 PM

why am i on it then

6:45 PM

why is austin on it

this is not a "I care GIF"

like i said be4

6:46 PM

stupid to even make that list because

Well whether you like it or not he was Leader during one our most successful eras, therefore part of FOE's leadership, and therefore worthy of being on the GIF

no i like Austin

6:47 PM

its just funny hes on it, yet others arent

This was supposed to be for our closing topic, btw.

ik

Why on earth would I have jordai on there when he's in eop

because if the clan is closing, who cares

6:47 PM

put ppl that were important

6:47 PM

as recognition

6:47 PM

since that was the reason it was made

So you could argue that people like 0wl and Pixel Pigeon should be on the picture

if the intention was never to close then it makes more sense, but it was made as a closing sig

6:48 PM

no

6:48 PM

i named ppl in the clan in 2023

6:48 PM

which would have been the last year of the clan

6:48 PM

if we closed

Can we discuss what’s happening moving forward? Because I can guarantee nobody knows what’s happening moving forward apart from funky himself

remy, jordai, utc, nice net, braden, pasco, pizy also have the same logic applied

Well my logic is pretty simple, if you are on the final memberlist you're on the closing picture. What you're saying is that people in other clans should be on our ending SIG, that's never a thing in any clan whatsoever

6:52 PM

We could ramble all day about worthy legends or elders, because theres been legends and elders for 19 years

6:52 PM

So im just not gonna bother and you have your opinion

anyway

It’s actually becoming a shit show and I can’t be assed being part of anything moving forward because we are all sitting ducks at this point being going over this bullshit for weeks it’s actually embarrassing and nothing is getting done move me to veteran

ok

6:54 PM

ill give u it

Cheers buddy

ill remember u tho, ull be on my sig

6:55 PM

Top man

Okay so @danny

yo

Were you still wanting to come take leader or what

6:56 PM

Cause I was told at first you didn’t and you changed your mind

well you've basically been wanting to opt out for a while @GFX so all good

yes

6:58 PM

but i wanna do things my way

6:58 PM

so its up 2 u

good he's speaking

6:58 PM

whats your demands

Yes but what is your way

6:58 PM

Who would you want gone

Not really @Erik been wanting to know a plan for a while nothing been said so

Who would you bring in

Lets work together brother

thats not on the leadership, tbh. We voted to close, and certain people in the backgrounds voted to keep it open. So point your fingers in the right direction

Everyone just work together and make us competitive again

ok we can work together but im not doing it unless its my way

What is your way

What is your fucking way man

Just say it

Do it

Nobody is gonna cry or flame just say it

7:00 PM

We’re trying to go the best route forward for the clan

7:00 PM

And to do that we need information

7:01 PM

Not saying a super detailed plan or anything but something

redo the rank team, run the clan the way i want. no crying, no complaining

7:02 PM

if u dont like it then u retire

Who do u want on ur rank team

^^

This

7:03 PM

If you want certain people to step down just say it

7:03 PM

Nobody is gonna cry about it

we've gone over it and no1s gonan cry

7:04 PM

we just want to hear what "your way" is

Everyone here can still support as elder, etc and won’t mind being told to step down

been waiting for 2 days now

This

I’ll happily take elder and happy to go your way

i havent asked ppl yet because theres no point to unless it was to happen

I can understand not asking other people to step up with you since you don’t know

7:06 PM

But who did you have in mind

7:06 PM

And who did you want to step down

jordai pizy nice net utc austin mike maybe remy + current ranks from in foe already

Would you be able to sign them

7:08 PM

?

Give it a shot and reach out to them

thats on me, idk yet

Perfect opportunity is now

and on them

7:09 PM

im not pming any1 until i know

”current ranks from in foe” what do u have in mind

7:10 PM

Also we have the no multiclanning situation going so to not get camped by rot. You’re up to date with this I’m sure

yes

Looks like the same rank team as bh

7:11 PM

And that was a great success

This

not sure yet

7:11 PM

it depends how im feeling

I understand it’s up to you but -remy seems pretty done with pure clanning (?) -nice net doesn’t play rs (?) -austin has refused to rejoin foe for over 3 years now

thats for me to figure out

Sure

Okay so is there anyone that you for sure want to step down for you to come in

7:12 PM

Because I know there has been comments in the past so

7:12 PM

Just wanna make sure it’s clear

Nice net is in eop

Pulling up my pms with him

7:16 PM

Ok cant find him anymore but he said to me he doesn’t like some of foes leadership and joined eop to ”boost their ml”

7:16 PM

I dont think James is actually playing

7:16 PM

Oh well

he goes to eop events

7:16 PM

ik that

Kk

i somewhat agree with danny, some important names are missing but pretty hard to get it sorted within 2 days

7:22 PM

mistakes happen

7:22 PM

nothing personal

7:25 PM

Austin won't join unless Fatality officially close however that does not seem too far away, Not sure if all of those names are good additions but which people would you replace?

7:25 PM

i think that's pretty crucial information lmao

And once again people aren’t going to get offended

im not sure yet

when are you able to provide a proper plan

7:29 PM

So the tldr is that you basically want to have another attempt to have a full dictatorship or am i mistaken here

uhmm

Seems a bit like Brotherhood/dictatorship, but needs verification

i wouldnt rlly call it that

7:48 PM

how is it a dictatorship when its a team running the clan

So

7:51 PM

What would your ideal header be @danny

he's said it

Being realistic as to who we could get

[11:08 PM]danny: jordai pizy nice net utc austin mike maybe remy + current ranks from in foe already

Sorry, been afk and didn't scroll up

7:53 PM

And I'd assume we'd be coming in with the goal of being able to rival EoP again

7:54 PM

What about Divine? Or is divine nfs?

yeah divine is around

OK so let's say we give this the go ahead

7:56 PM

What are the next steps

7:58 PM

It'd be ideal to know who out of those you listed would be on board with it

Well it's pretty much a dictatorship if you are the only person that decide what happens no?

well sure. you dont have to if you dont want to

8:18 PM

up 2 u

8:18 PM

as a group

I mean i think everybody should work together but the vibes you are giving me right now is that you believe you don't need many of the current ranks and that you want to be solo leader to bring in certain replacements. I believe there are certain ranks here that still have strengths that are quite useful for any rank team.

We'll see, atleast you gave your plan thanks for that

We need to figure out a direction for the clan sooner rather than later.

Majority of these are inactive or hate pure clanning and won't be able to go hard for 1 year, so it would probably end up with you doing all the work like before

4:59 AM

Also fuck Remy lol, last time he went afk as soon as he got leader

5:00 AM

I feel like if we can' get a committed rank team we are better off closing then staying on life support for another year

both options have the odds against them but not impossible, now it's basically up to adhi to make a decision who will be taking over

All of them are in eop except remy @kRiS

5:07 AM

But yeah I’m down for whatever

5:07 AM

And Austin doesn’t play at@

5:07 AM

Atm

wym

5:07 AM

he is online 16 hours a day

Yes I mean in a clan

ah yeah

5:08 AM

well thats because fi is also on life support

5:08 AM

he does show up to their events at times

Guess so

5:08 AM

U prob know more

5:08 AM

But the rest are in eop

yeah but just as an extra ops for the occasional trip when they feel like it, I don't see them having any longterm decent activity

5:09 AM

especially not the activity needed to work on a huge rebuild

well would be up to us to get people to leave eop

5:11 AM

and i think we all have our connections to do so as long as we work together

This

6:09 AM

We haven’t work together only against each other

My little jordai in eop

Not a copypasta chan ya froobs

Pussies

Loc update

5:32 PM

@Adhi

5:32 PM

@Funky @danny

Yo

Any updates or whats going on

Mpc opening a new clan?

Not yet

Yes update m8 mpc newest imperio member

5:51 PM

Big focus on foe

Think Adhi might be trying to join rot too?

5:52 PM

Noob @Adhi

Bro he’s not

5:52 PM

Trust

He’s thinking about it unless it’s a random posting on their forums as him

He’s not, maybe a +1 at most for fun

Well they aren’t allowing multi clanning nowadays according to chief so

why would any1 impost adhi lol

It’s me.

so i guess ur not sticking around afterall

I might not be able to join rot depending if they go hard on the activity

bitch

6:15 PM

Smh..

stepping down cuz you want to join rot

6:31 PM

At least he didn’t close us so he could

If he wants to let him? Who cares

Of course he can but doesn’t mean I can’t give him shit for it

6:58 PM

It is what it is we’ll continue regardless

it is what it is, no multiclanning policy eh

Hol up

Wait wtf

@danny have you reached out to anybody for your potential rank team yet?

No

Suggestion is mass recruit, dont give a flying fuck about integrity. Just auto member people instead of being petty with an app process right now.

Is anybody going to make a decision? Just kinda sitting stagnant rn @Adhi @Funky

Pm me when you guys are ready to make the adjustments. Again I haven’t received any formal pm from Danny stating to make the changes

1:36 PM

Funky is on board with either plan

1:36 PM

He wants the greater good of the clan

1:37 PM

Once Danny pms me what I need to adjust I will do

@danny

2:33 PM

What’s the plan then

well atleast we know who will take leader, i'll make my own decision later on based on the developments

Danny is waiting for the ok from what I understand

Adhi already gave the ok

Feels like it’s been the same situation for a couple days now. Sitting on my hands etc

just waiting to finalize everything

never seen such slow niggas

whats the plan

Well, a few people voted for staying open. Haven’t seen anything from them, tbh

Danny wanted those people replaced so understandable

@Polo u gonna start be usefull?

4:37 AM

Imperial closed aao btw no crying divine

Are u ?

7:28 AM

U guys flame each other now?

we learned from past leadership

7:52 AM

True

So what we doing faggots

Pull 100 again

@danny is going to leader, no?

I need a clear direction for the fucking 100th time in my pm from Danny on what I’m moving around

9:07 AM

I’ve not fucking got it at all

9:08 AM

This is my fucking pm so far

9:08 AM

Nothing in regards to direction or anything

Again I’m not asking for much just a simple pm so we can make the adjustments and move on

@danny you said it was on us to make a decision on which route we wanted to go. A decision has been made

9:23 AM

Why stall?

OK so let's just give Danny leader

9:34 AM

Then any further adjustments can be made by him?

Its not like your communication has been top notch

9:40 AM

People are under the impression you want daniel to take over so they are waiting for that

Yes I do, I’m waiting for him to respond to the simple questions above.

Just give him leader and let him make the adjustments and build his team?

If you just said danny has not decided yet but i want him to lead instead of funker it might have been easier

9:44 AM

But idk how much time he need to take over from funker but if its a reasonable timeframe ill fucking make the decisions till both parties are ready

He's said who he's going to be trying to get back and what he wants to do

Danny is waiting on us and we're waiting on danny

9:53 AM

Seems as though decision is made and parties are ready but no action is being taken

Not sure why has to wait on the ranks kekwait

Wym

I dont see why danny has to wait on other people unless he did not agree to take leader

He told us his plan and said he will do it days ago

Thats what i thought aswell yes

Think he’s getting confirmation from certain people he wanted on his team But it looks like both sides are waiting yes = we do nothing in the meantime

I don't think Danny is fully convinced yet if he even wants leader and rebuild foe

3:18 PM

so I wouldn't force him into leader before he is 100% sure he wants to give it another try

I believe the whole situation is pretty weird -Danny didn’t want leader a week before he suddenly did -a majority in here voted for foe to stay open, and is waiting on a decision on what’s happening from any of our 2 leaders -the people who voted for closing are starting to believe it was the right call with how stale everything looks rn

Majority voted to stay open? wasn't it mainly funky and kruck that wanted to stay open after majority wanted it closed

@Boris made a spreadsheet showing that a slight majority wanted to stay open in the end, which is why Adhi decided to those people keep going

okay but of the people who voted to stay open who could actually help out with the rebuild? I mean if you ask me I would love to reach 20 years and end on top but I can't be active to help out with the rebuild so it would be unfair to vote to stay open to be honest

3:28 PM

I mean it's to easy to say that you want to stay open if you aren't gonna be part of the rebuild

3:28 PM

how many people voted to stay open who could actually help with the rebuild

the people that voted to stay open are indeed down to be part of the rank team however adhi wants danny to lead it which means some of these people will be demoted

Might break some hearts here but down to be part of the rank team doesn’t automatically mean capable of doing a rebuild the size we’re talking here

3:30 PM

Feel like we trip around the point sometimes, just trying to be honest

who is it besides funky and kruck that voted yes then? @Boris

lemme check

Teleporting, polo, k2p, luke and divine

K2P, luke and divine can't be active for the rebuild

main people are funky, kruck, teleporting, lay, polo, k2p, divine and colin

3:32 PM

and basically everybody else is willing to stay around and help in some way

3:33 PM

that being said this was asked before adhi/danny talked about danny taking leader

3:33 PM

not sure if people would change their mind with danny as leader

Idk but there’s a growing impatience in what the fuck we’re actually doing here

wasting valuable time, that's what we are doing

again majority of the list contains people who can't be active enough for the rebuild tbh

3:34 PM

if we want the rebuild to succeed activity needs to be top notch

Mhm or wants to keep foe on life support just to reach 20 years

it's not impossible but the issue right now is that people don't want to slave without knowing the exact situation

3:35 PM

can't expect people to put in work knowing they are getting demoted

3:36 PM

and right now the only 'leader' is funky that is not making decisions but thats most likely because adhi told him danny is taking over

I mean I feel the people who voted in the other direction have the right to not do shit until further announcement. As for the open-voters I’d expect a agreement and a plan to be worked out already regardless if danny is coming back or not

3:37 PM

Pretty much

I find it more frustrating that the people who voted to close are the people pushing these conversations

3:38 PM

Most open voters are silent

Had a good opportunity to close, so far it’s looking like it was the right decision. Change my mind motherfuckers

I don’t mind keeping the clan open but it will be a weird conversation with people I try to re-recruit when I don’t even know who the leader is going to be ….

What about soft close for now, remove everyones rank. Give danny time to talk to people and build a rank team he wants. And restart from there.

I’m not waiting on anyone, I’m just questioning it

you do you but closing is closing to me, that means i'll move on most likely

Everybody that wanted to stay open is ready to continue moving forward at either an active or elder rank

4:59 PM

I assumed Danny was fully ready and just waiting on a decision from our side

4:59 PM

Thought once that was sorted, changes would be instant

5:00 PM

Monday-Wed have always been bad days for me to be active, Thursday-Sunday is when I play the most

5:00 PM

And regardless of what happens I’ll be on those days this weekend and moving forward

so whats the plan..?

Personally I just think the clan needs to close

5:08 PM

You can’t use that last two days of activity as a reference for how it can be down the line due to people thinking there was going to be a leadership change early this week

Ok then prove me wrong

Ok how

..?

5:35 PM

Make the clan competitive

What do you define as competitive

5:35 PM

30?

5:36 PM

40?

5:36 PM

it will be hard to persuade people to leave Eop or zenith to come to us especially if I don’t know who our leader is

5:37 PM

Might as well take a piss into the wind

what would you like to see krucker

Wym?

5:37 PM

From here or our clan

yeah but you have your own opinion aswell

I want to kill zenith and Eop

5:38 PM

But we can’t even make a choice on who our leader is

yeah who do you want to be your leader

Well as far as I can tell Danny is half in and half out. Funky is wanting to also hear from Danny. So which is it?

5:40 PM

can’t force someone to take leader

5:40 PM

Tbh thought Danny would have sacked up by now

no but who do you want to be your leader

5:41 PM

a few weeks ago you mentioned being a leader was easy, decision making is easy

No I said this

but you avoid nearly every direct question

For me making a decision is better than not making one

5:42 PM

Well you have given me two options that are both waiting on each other ?

I honestly think this also might be the better option right now

Gg

You don’t decide I decide

So what’s it’s gonna be

6:09 PM

Looks like Danny don’t want to take leader

6:10 PM

And funky is waiting for the sun to come up

pretty much funker and co will lead foe

Honestly I have no fucking clue what is gonna happen

that's what will happen

So who wants to be still a rank

6:11 PM

Funky, Collin and me ?

and kruck

krucker

6:11 PM

thought teleporting wanted to remain ranked aswell ?

6:12 PM

pretty much you gonna have to rebuild and add people to the rank team

6:12 PM

brain etc could be an option

Understandable

be creative, try to auto rank people if needed if you know they will be additions

6:12 PM

not that hard

im gonna help as elder where i can, already told funky about it. i expect a hc to be really active and i cant be that active upcoming couple months.

could just be a slightly less active hc till there is a replacement

Brian might be a good rank idk

6:15 PM

We could try

6:16 PM

@Funky get ur shit together, make a new rank team that people that want to continue

6:16 PM

And start to move on

6:16 PM

All this waiting doesn’t make it better

6:17 PM

All the people that don’t want to be a rank, get elder or elder* or what ever

6:17 PM

And let’s go with the rebuild

Yeah well I’ll get shit going now, was under the assumption Danny wanted leader right away. Apparently that isn’t the case. Will start pressing forward

God damn the people in this chat are god awful at communication, how do you guys even get on with your lives irl? Astounding

6:31 PM

And u need to make up your mind already @danny holy fuck

I did?

6:33 PM

I’m just being polite about it

Yeah I think the stance is clear

6:34 PM

Thanks for considering the option @danny and realistically, I think most of us in here can understand

I don’t understand all you are gay let’s make foe great again or stop shitting on our hands and close

6:35 PM

Especially you polo

We literally kept open because of some magical plan B that’s now not happening

Wym im@right here

6:36 PM

New meeting this Sunday aight ?

tbf adhi kept it open for both options, it's just that he wanted daniel over funker

6:38 PM

lets see how they will do

6:38 PM

lets help them where we can

We should I agree. Why don’t we all be online Sunday and make a decision to close or finalize a rank team and move forward.

6:52 PM

3pm Sunday? Can yall be there?

I was about to say this but essentially what I said is exactly what happened and why nothing’s happening rn

Because no1 active knows what to do

6:59 PM

And it’s clear

Ye we all suck

U don’t have to be the best, but at least try something

We tried for 4 months and were bringing it back, until VR and EoP

7:01 PM

Like I’ve said in the past, no1’s been man enough to close the past 2 years

Yeah

7:01 PM

True

7:01 PM

Want me to do it?

I just tried it but got ruled over

Gimme leader I’ll do it

Ye pls

Which is fair, I was in minority

If everyone else doesn’t want to

But I have 9 consistent years in this clan, more than anyone without a break for sure. And it makes me sick to keep shitting on what this clan has done in the past

Yes

7:02 PM

100%

I have seen it all

Is it still the majority ?

The people who voted for closing are still minority, and I have the upmost respect for that, but the unfortunate part is that half those people can’t/won’t help out to rebuild anyhow

7:03 PM

Who voted yes

I’m changing to a yes to close, its clear we can’t do this properly…

7:07 PM

Can’t we just have a proper anniversary and one big pull or something to go out on a high note?

We aren’t closing

7:08 PM

Wait so now you do want it?

No he meant to close

He wants leader to close the clan

Oh I see I didn’t read everything

7:09 PM

My b